Archive: March 24, 2004 – June 30, 2006
Opening comments
Definitely needs NPOVized, and edited. I wouldn't know where to begin. Any takers? Rgamble
I didn't know Marley had been shot in 1976. For the sake of clarity it would be helpful to have some idea of the extent of his injuries to separate this from the information about the cancer that caused his death.Basswulf 16:16, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC) He was shot in the arm, but it did not penetrate the bone so not a serious injury. There is a famous photo of him covered in blood examining his arm. He was discharged from hospital within an hour or two.--Squiquifox 16:42, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Koyaanis Qatsi. The Bob Marley page really needs some work. I was thinking about rewriting it myself, but since you beat me to the punch it's in your court.
Alister 06:08, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Deathday?
When did he die? On May 10, 1981 or on May 11, 1981? Some sources are reporting that it's the 10th...?! -- CdaMVvWgS 17:25, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Death?
I thought he died of skin cancer? Selphie That is how it started, he died of a mestasized (spread) skin cancer. So he had skin cancer in his brain, but that is not where the tumours began--Squiquifox 16:49, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
How He Died?
I thought he died of brain cancer? His Birthday is the same as mine, I feel special!
he died of a foot tumor.
German version of this article
The german version of this article, here translated to English as some rather useful info, which someone might like to incorporate into the English version. --Rebroad 13:10, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
General punctuation cleanup and clarification.
I know Koyaanis Qatsi offered to rewrite this, and I look forward to a more expert article. In the meanwhile, I've cleaned up some of the more glaring punctuation errors and clarified some convoluted or confusing parts of the text to make it more readable. Hope you approve! --Dsibilly 05:42, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Marijuana
I was quite surprised to find no reference or link to marijuana cannabis (drug), so have added something. Squiquifox 19:21, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Charles Wesley
(Barret, Leonard E., The Rastafarians, p. 213).SqueakBox 21:47, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)
Vandalism
This article was left vandalised 12 hours. Some kind of a record? Please put it on your watchlist. --SqueakBox 14:40, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
Norval Marley
..was not from Wales. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/3431139.stm
The Wailers Band
There should be a page for Bob Marley, but *also* a specific one for Bob Marley & The Wailers (Also would redirect "Wailers Band". This band is still going strong today, lead by Ashton "Familyman" Barrett. This is worth inclusion in Wikipedia, as Familyman was as much musically involved with Bob's music as Bob himself.
Agreed. The Wailers Band is an incredibly well-loved band, at least in New York City.
Bob Marley's religion
I know he was a Rastafarian for most of his life and that is what his music portrays, but I think that there should be reference to the fact that 7 months before he died he was converted to Eastern Orthodox Christianity (the same religion as Haile Selassie) It's kind of a big deal because alot of people who arent in Jamaica(most Jamaicans know it because it was like a huge shock when he gave up the Rasta faith) but people still call him Rastafarian and such. I just think more people should know about this and it should be on this little page here. Jah bless
Bob Marley did not give up his Rastafari faith and claiming he did is dishonest POV pushing, SqueakBox 13:53, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I have just put an article with the Christafari point of view about his Ethiopian Orthodox Church conversion. I don't like this group and don't agree with them, SqueakBox July 1, 2005 18:33 (UTC)
Even if you don't like the group Christafari are'nt the quoted sources enough to prove he gave up Rastafarianism? also is there anywhere that I may read the post chemotherapy interview where you said he reaffirmed his faith in Ras Tafari?. Jah bless. Also Im not to good with words so I just want everyone to know im not trying to start an argument, if I sound that way at all I apologize.
The Christafari group has very legit sources. I think that you are being way too prejudice simply because they're a Christian group. So far all I see is an anti-Christian agenda to try and make it seem like Marley would never give up the Rasta. Lets be fair with the sources and not pick at the people providing them. Marley died a Christian, not a Rasta.
The Christafari website mentions freely their sources as evidence and proof that Bob Marley converted to the Eastern Orthodox religion before he died. He was buried in an Eastern Orthodox church; in Jamaica, it was widely known. Personally, I feel that Bob is too intelligent to think that Mr. Selassie was Christ reincarnated, when Mr. Selassie himself denied that he was divine. Squeakbox, you are obviously biased against Christians. The least you can do, to be on even footing in a debate with the Christafaris, is provide evidence and cite your sources, instead of just stating your personal beliefs. - et3rnal D
I think that you are both "right " to a degree. Bob Marley was Baptized into the Ethiopian Orthodox Church seven months before he died, and this can be substantiated by the fact that he was given an Ethiopian Orthodox funeral. This Church would not have performed a funeral ceremony for anyone who was not a member, and in order to become a member you had to denounce the belief that Haile Selassie was christ reincarnate. Thus, Bob must have done this in order to recieve a funeral that was endorsed by the EOC. The second set of evidence that would support his conversion to the Christian faith is in the interview with the EOC's then Arch Bishop Yesehaq, who described Bob's conversion process in detail as a half hour of weeping. Now, even though he may have been converted to the Christian faith insofar as the fundamental teachings of the Bible, that certainly does not mean that he was somehow taken away from his culture. This is where there is a lot of confusion, because people tend to blend culture and religion into one rigid formula. Since the white westerners are primarily a Christian people, the Christian faith is commonly tied in as a "white-man's" practice. However, just because the white western culture practices the Christian faith, that does not mean that it is exclusive to white people, or to any one race for that matter. Quite conversely, the original figures of the Bible were indeed not white, and the teachings of the Christian faith are that of freedom (with the exception of some of the more radical man-made factions). So aside from the misplaced worship of Haile Selassie, Bob Marley pretty much followed the inherent principles of the Christian faith to begin with.
Whether or not he was a 'true' Rastafarian at the time of his death depends on how you define Rastafari. If it means that you believe that Haile Selassie is God, then no, Bob Marley was no longer a Rastafarian. However, if by 'Rastafarian' you meant that he still sported his Dreads and believed in the uprising of the black people, then yes he may still have been a Rasta. In my opinion though, I don't think that he was a Rastafarian. Being a political activist for a racial group is a completely seperate object from one's faith, with the exception being Rastafari because it espoused the belief that a living black man was God. Thus, if he rejected this in the end of his life, then it is impossible to continue to regard him as a Rastafarian. Keep in mind that my last statement was completely my own opinion.
Here are some of the sources that I used:
-In a newspaper interview with Archbishop Abuna Yesehaq done by Barbara Blake Hannah,November 25, 1984, in the Gleaner's Sunday Magazine (pages 2,3,11), titled 'Abuna Yesehaq Looks Back on 14 Years of Ministry in Jamaica' the following was said about Bob Marley's baptism.
"Bob was really a good brother, a child of God, regardless of how people looked at him. He had a desire to be baptised long ago, but there were people close to him who controlled him and who were aligned to a different aspect of Rastafari . But he came to Church regularly. I remember once while I was conducting the Mass, I looked at Bob and tears were streaming down his face...When he toured Los Angeles and New York and England, he preached the Orthodox faith, and many members in those cities came to the Church because of Bob. Many people think he was baptised because he knew he was dying, but that is not so...he did it when there was no longer any pressure on him, and when he was baptised, he hugged his family and wept, they all wept together for about half an hour."
-In an Interview the following year (9th July, 1995) on the JBCTV (now called TVJ) program "Profile" he was asked by host Ian Boyne about the bapistim of Bob Marley. Below is a clip from that interview
Ian: You baptized Bob Marley? Yesehaq: I did baptize Bob Marley in the presence of his wife Rita Marley and his children. Only the family, because he was not so willing to have it officially, it was difficult for him...which I don't want to describe.
Okay, perhaps I was a little vague in my explanation, so let me try again. First of all, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church is indeed a Christian Church. Thus, the doctrine of said Church would have to revolve around the teachings of Je
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