Launching the Tucson Wiki
I just launched the Tucson Wiki. I invite interested contributors. Please join me in building a helpful knowledge base of Tucson information. --Kimbayne 13:20 PM, July 18, 2005 (MST) --kris 20:16, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I now have a Tucson Wiki going that is actually maintained and updated on a daily basis. At the date of this writing there are over 200 pages, contributed by only three people so far, would be great if others were interested in adding content. The wiki is growing nicely and it is really starting to fill with content. --RBChallenger 10:19 PM MST, January 11, 2008
Prepping for the RfC/vote
I have now put in a request to unprotect the page, in preparation for the RfC/vote beginning later today. If once it gets unprotected you guys want to throw your version up on the article page to show the world how it would look, that's fine by me. Also, I am preparing a short commentary on my proposed version, so I suggest you guys prepare one on yours also. --Gary D 20:04, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
Unprotection
I've unprotected. Good luck with the vote. ] 20:16, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
December 16-23, 2004 vote
A vote was held between two proposed versions, given below. The voting period was from 00:01 UTC on Thursday, December 16 to 00:01 UTC on Thursday, December 23. Thank you to everyone who participated.
Dispute context
The dispute started when an editor placed the Tohono O'odham name for Tucson in the first sentence of the article, a move opposed by several other editors. The history of the dispute is found on this page above. The difference between the two versions below is not intended to be inclusion/exclusion, but rather placement of the Tohono O'odham name and wording regarding it: Version 1 places it closer to the top, and includes a first-sentence parenthetical translation, and explains the name origin in more detail further down, while Version 2 places it further down in the article, and explains the name origin but does not give a first-sentence parenthetical translation.
Version 1
it is a modern reality . Similarly, the O'odham name for Tucson deserves mention, and is included in the top paragraph in a historical context explaining the etymology English name, but is also of sufficient encyclopedic significance to justify inclusion in the introductory sentence with a translation which will be informative and relevant to most Wikipedia readers. --Node 03:44, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
July 1 , 2003 Census estimate puts the city's population at 507,658. It is the largest city in southern Arizona, and the second largest in the state after Phoenix. Joined by I-10, Phoenix and Tucson are the endpoints of a 100-mile corridor of increasingly suburbanized areas. Tucson is the county seat of Pima County 6 .
=== History ==
The area around what is now Tucson has been inhabited since pre-historic times, originally by the Hohokam, and more recently by groups such as the Tohono O'odham, who may be descendants of the Hohokam, and the Yaqui, most of whom arrived in the late 1800s fleeing persecution in Mexico. (### O'odham currently live in the city as well as in the nearby San Xavier reservation and Tohono O'odham Nation. 6800 Yaqui currently live in the city, largely in Old Pascua and Barrio Libre, and on the nearby Pascua Yaqui reservation and in Yoem Pueblo in Marana.) In 1692, Jesuit missionary Eusebio Francisco Kino visited the area, which the O'odham called "Cuk Ṣon", building the Mission San Xavier del Bac in 1700. The Spanish established a presidio (fort) in 1776 and the town came to be called "Tucson."
=== Etymology of "Tucson" ===
The name, (pronounced /tusʊn/), comes, via Spanish, from the O'odham name for the city which means "Black Foothills," a reference to the Baboquivari mountains to the west of Tucson. One of the more notable of these foothills is Sentinel Peak (Arizona), better known as " A Mountain" because it sports a large letter A in honor of the University of Arizona. Tucson is sometimes referred to as "The Old Pueblo".
( Note: the text of Version 1 given here has changed since the voting began. )
Version 2
July 1 , 2003 Census estimate puts the city's population at 507,658. It is the largest city in southern Arizona, and the second largest in the state after Phoenix. The name Tucson comes via Spanish from the O'odham, cuk Ṣon , meaning "Black Foothills," a reference to the mostly volcanic mountains on the west side of the city. The most notable of these foothills is Sentinel Peak, better known as " A Mountain" because it sports a large letter A in honor of the University of Arizona. Tucson is sometimes referred to as "The Old Pueblo".
==History==
Tucson was originally inhabited around 7000 BC by early Paleo-Indians, and later replaced by groups designated by archaeologists as the Hohokam. Jesuit missionary Eusebio Francisco Kino visited the area in 1692, and founded the Mission San Xavier del Bac in 1700. The Spanish established a presidio (fort) in 1776 and the town came to be called "Tucson." Tucson became a part of Mexico after Mexico gained independence from Spain in 1821. ...
* * *==Demographics==
The Native American inhabitants in the area include Tohono O'odham, living in the city, on the nearby San Xavier reservation, and in the Tohono O'odham Nation, who may be descendants of the prehistoric inhabitants, as well as 6,800 Yaqui, living in the city (largely in the Old Pascua and Barrio Libre neighborhoods), on the nearby Pascua Yaqui reservation, and in the Yoem Pueblo in the town of Marana, most of whom trace their local ancestry back to arrivals in the late 1800s fleeing persecution in Mexico.
* * *==Miscellaneous==
Tucson is joined by I-10 to Phoenix, and forms one endpoint of a 100-mile corridor of increasingly suburbanized areas along that highway which once traversed largely undeveloped desert.
Two United States Navy vessels have been named USS Tucson in honor of the city.
Nieuw Amsterdam )" but, again, not in the lead. Side note, thanks to whoever did the work to set this up and make it so easy for RfC visitors to vote intelligently. JamesMLane 17:58, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I'm glad to see a discussion of this finally possibly coming to a resolution, and if version 2 becomes the appropriate one, I'd like to see many of the city articles from Arizona that include a version 1-style opening to be modified. I'd like to be clear that I don't oppose including information relevant to the article, I just oppose the inclusion of the alternate names for a place as V1 has it. I feel that format should be reserved for when the actual/official name for a city is in another language (for example, Munich, which lists the German name for the city as that is how the city is officially known.) This means that a city whose name is in English should not have a second name listed in the English wikipedia. If Tucson was listed in an O'odham wikipedi
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