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Numbers
The numbers given in this entry are mutually incompatible. I realise that estimates vary wildly but some effort should be made to reconcile the percentage and numerical estimates - 89 million is waaaay less than the 20% of women suggested in the same sentence. Anyone got time to do the research necessary to come up with a sensible range of possible numbers and percentages? I haven't, alas. --Oolong 07:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)2007
Numbers Part 2
Just wandered in looking for information, and the numbers are the first thing that caught my eye and damaged the credibility of the article. With an estimated population of about 6.2B on the planet, and approximately 51% female, this would suggest approximately 600M women have it if 1 in 5 are affected. Article cited in claims 3-10% of *reproductive women*, 25-35% of *infertile* women. Anyway, I'm anonymous, not familiar with guidelines--expect someone will edit this out, but IMO it really hurts the credibility of this article... My best guess is the 1 in 5 actually means 1 in 5 fertile females.
excising endometriosis for more complete relief----
There has not been much written on completely excising (cutting) ALL endometriosis from ALL areas. Two very good resources for this type of procedure are the Center for Endometriosis Care(CEC) in Atlanta, Georgia(Dr. Albee and Dr. Sinervo) and Dr. Redwine with his extensive research in Oregon. I can testify that after 12 years of suffering from endo, I researched and found that totally removing all traces of endo produced very possitive, long term relief. Also, a laporoscopy is the only definite means of diagnosing endometriosis as all stages of endo(stages I,II,III and IV)can vary in symptoms depending on where the endometriosis is and adhering to. I personally had stage IV, had this procedure(complete excision)done and have been endo pain-free for 2 years. Pain medications, estrogen therapy, hormone removal therapy(lupron) do not remove endo from your body, it may mask symptoms for a time. Even hysterectomies will not help if you do not have endo in or on female organs. I had endo in other areas(bladder, ureters, colon, pelvic wall) that a complete hysterectomy DID NOT remove or help the endo "die off", as many doctors falsely believe. --Christi222 19:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Christi McDonaldI would like to concur with Christi222 as a person who has had excision surgery. I have been pain free for almost two years now since having the endometriosis plastered throughout my pelvis thoroughly excised by specialist. I did not have a hysterectomy either and would like to know where it has been shown that a hysterectomy is a treatment for endometriosis. I have heard accounts from numerous women who have had a hysterectomy and it did NOT cure their endo. ---- sassygirl1968
Yes, excision with biopsy is the only way to offcially diagnose endo and the only effective long term treatment to date. Laser and cautery vaporization and ablation only remove the surface of the disease, and leave the "roots" to continue to regenerate. Hysterectomy with bilateral salping oophrectomy is not a cure. Endometriosis lesions produce their own hormones, so will continue to proliferate on their own if not removed even if the ovaries and uterus are removed. It is appalling that this article lists ablation and vaporization as "treatments" when all it does is create adhesions and scar tissue, leading to more pain and not treating the disease at all. Barbiegirl1983 (talk) 05:09, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
NSAIDs
How can NSAIDs increases the flow when they thick out the blood, causing decreased flow. And trust me, they DO work for endometriosis. Nothing does. :(
NSAIDs don't work for endometriosis pain at all. They are great for mild pain, but the severe pain caused by endo needs something stronger. Barbiegirl1983 (talk) 08:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)Food and nutrition
I would like to suggest that we have a section on the main page regarding food and nutrition. I think that it would be nice to have a section where women can express their personal experiences with different types of food products. For example, I have noticed an increase in pain after consuming certain types of red wine as well as certain types of ice cream. I think that a section where people could list these types of triggers and could comment on them so that we could complile a list of common offenders. This is the perfect place for public discussion, as it is for the people and by the people. Please comment on this before I re-post regarding food and nutrition. Thanks.Disneytina79 (talk) 01:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the section saying that avoiding white bread helps endo. There is no proof of this. Also this section focused entirely on PMS- PMS is not to do with endo, it's a seperate condition. Women with endo are not any more likely to have PMS. In fact given that most of us have treatments that stop periods altogether it's not much of an issue. LouiseCooke
Although Louise is correct about white bread, there is evidence that wheat has an effect for some people. This is based on one of the theories of endometriosis being an auto immune disease. If then your immune system is compromised by an intollerance to wheat then by removing wheat from your diet your immune system is no longer stressed and your body is no longer stressed. Part of the enigma of this disease is that the pain a person suffers is not linked to the amount of endometriosis a person has. Most people may not care if they have endometriosis or not, but they do care about the pain and other symptoms they suffer with.
--Ccfd9 14:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)White bread is a very common pain trigger for women with endometriosis. Many patients are intolerant or allergic to wheat and yeast, both of which white bread contains. It is also very inflammatory and contains no fibre contributing to bowel pain. Barbiegirl1983 (talk) 08:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I rewrote the article because:
- The previous endometriosis write-up was based on a government publication that was directed to a patient population.
- Much of the stuff was redundant or is now better explained in Wikipedia's cross-references.
- The article (like the goverment publication) addresses the reader as "you".
- It contained a section that may have been taken from other parts of the internet: The Chapter about Dr.M. and allergy I found in the doctorslounge (http://www.thedoctorslounge.net/clinlounge/diseases/gynecology/endometriosis.htm), however Dr.M. apparently never published her research in a peer-reviewed article. I do not know if this section is original to Wikipedia.
- References steering readers to specific physician services in the links do not belong here.
I hope that this more concise article can be further improved. It still needs more work. Ekem 17:49, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Can any sources be cited to substainiate the idea that endometriosis can be related to 'women who wear army boots' ?
===="Army Boots"??? You're joking, right? A quick Google search regarding Endometriosis+"army boots" results in nothing. And this is the first time that I have ever heard it mentioned... Do you have any links or anything where this is being talked about?
I would like to see more information added regarding the Dioxin theory or connection. You can get more information regarding this here: http://www.endometriosisassn.org/environment.html RuthB 23:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
I felt this sentence was a little clunky, and have altered it: "Infertile Women present with endometriosis may lead to fallopian tube obstruction despite no history of "endometriotic type" pain". Also I have altered it so that it states subfertility is common- few women, even with endo, are completely infertile?
Needs a new definition?
The definition in this article, "the tissue lining the uterus is found outside of the uterus", while apparantly correct, is nonetheless highly problematic. Besides being completely meaningless in the context of male endometriosis, the Epidemiology section points out that issues can occur in all sorts of places. This issue should be cleared up, but I have not the skill to do it. Vectro 01:51, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
More on male endometriosis?
Endo in males is extremely rare, and usually concurrent with estrogen therapy for prostate cancer. Current theory is that the estrogen triggers cells latent since sex differentiation in the womb. I don't know enough to edit this article, but perhaps someone will.
I have removed reference to the prostate gland in the lead. Talk about your "distant sites", the rest of the lead mentions only women, and the reader upon encountering a prostate gland thinks "What the...?" The idea of male endometriosis is so surprising that it rates a full paragraph, if it indeed exists, or nothing. I was not able to so much as confirm the existence of it, so out it goes until somebody can cite a source. --Milkbreath (talk) 11:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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