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Body cleansing
Sources
I'd be very interested to see some sources on this. Is this practice uncommon just because it's unpleasant or because nobody's proven it to have any benefits? 68.35.68.100 02:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Quite the contrary, personally I thought the insights about GI reaction to the toxins were especially illuminating considering the many "colorful" claims on many of these sites. Colon Cleansing from a Gastroenterologist's perspective." If there was really something to it, wouldn't Dr's use this stuff to say...cure colon cancer or Crohn's disease or something , but they don't.
Although, there are certainly detractors with regards to the health benefits of body cleansing, there are certainly respectable doctors who attribute great success in treating patients with body cleansing and nutritional programs. Dr. Becky Natrajan, M.D., a gastroenterologist in Tucson, AZ, has stated that she has seen more success in improving the health of her patients since she started treating her patients with a combination of both cellular cleansing products and nutritional supplements than the 11 years combined leading up to her use of cleansing to aid her practice of medicine. Other doctors who use body cleansing in their practice with similar results are Dr. Dennis Harper, D.O. of St. George, UT and also family practitioner and nutritionist Dr. Cynthia Watson, M.D of Santa Monica, CA. Dr. Becky Natrajan, M.D. states that when the body is cleansed properly and given the proper nutrition, it allows the body to heal itself. She has seen many diseases, such as diabetes, cancer, gastrointestinal disorders (IBS, Crohn's, Diverticulosis, etc.), fibromyalgia, lupus, obesity, and heart disease cured using body cleansing. She emphatically states that miracle is not the cleansing or the nutrition, but that these things allow the body to heal itself naturally, as it was designed to do. Fox 31 News in Denver, CO attempted to debunk body cleansing by having volunteers use body cleansing and nutritional products. The test lasted 9 days and the volunteers wound up feeling much more energy, healthier, and as a side-effect lost weight, all while preserving muscle mass. Weight loss, Fox 31 News concluded, was a side-effect of a cleaner, healthier body.
other therapies. If such therapies had such clear effects, it would be vary easy to do a double-blind study, and quite inexpensive - the producer of such a study would easily gain fame. The biggest reason such studies are not out there is that any that have been carried out have failed, and the researchers have not published them. j-beda 13:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
criticism
I'm removing the reference to the non-quackwatch website from the criticism section. If someone thinks it belongs there, discuss it here.
2/9/09 I'm removing the phrase starting "Most doctors" because both of the references given were neither written by a doctor nor published in a peer reviewed journal. While it may be true that "most doctors" do not recommend body cleansing, it is your responsibility to provide a source if you wish to write that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.136.57 (talk) 04:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
NPOV
This is an advocacy piece in favor of "body cleansing." We need some sources here. --causa sui talk 06:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
--Clearly it is mostly anti-detox. What makes the least sense is that the actual specifics that the article does discuss appears to be what doctors basically recommend you eat and drink (+fruits/veggies, -alcohol, caffeine, processed food). Then it goes on and on about a few doctors who think this is dangerous (maybe they have some reasons, but as the page flows, this seems absurd) while pro-detox references have been taken off lest you advertise for "quacks".
So, the article is unbalanced anyway, but beyond this it seems to give a good picture of what a detox diet is and then focuses on criticism. This looks unbelievable. If this is not fixed, I might start making changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.75.52.109 (talk) 01:06, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Until someone defines the so called "toxins" that these products remove. There stands a lot of evidence that these products are purporting false health claims so I believe article neutrality is no longer an issue. It's not an "anti-detox" article; it states referenced sources questioning the efficacy of the product. Why are we having issues or article neutrality when the rules of No Original Research applies. These people who claim to have seen miraculous benefits need to present us some sort of method of action, how exactly does the product differentiate between a "toxin" and regular gut flora when no one has defined what a body toxin is. I think someone needs to present physical evidence as to how where and why they're accumulating in the body. Safez (talk) 21:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
The product is body cleansers/detoxifiers. The beliefs are that you are eliminating harmful toxins with the substances the detoxifying products contain. Apparently there is some efficacy to the claim (see our so called medical herbalist below)of plants containing certain agents that work on liver enzymes that handle the detox process and if true by all means cite them into the article. The fact that such a wide range of detoxifying products are mentioned is irrelevant as there purported method of action remains the same so therefore the criticism is in context.
There still remains the issue of classifying a "body toxin". Safez (talk) 03:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
This article's NPOV could be assisted by confining the article to generalities and providing sections specific to the various methods of body cleansing and discussing their method of action. Various modalities of body cleansing are currently employed, ranging from physical treatments (e.g. colon cleansing), to dietary restrictions (e.g. avoiding foods) or dietary supplements. Some variants involve the use of herbs and supplements that purportedly speed or increase the effectiveness of the process of cleansing. Several naturopathic and homeopathic preparations are also promoted for cleansing; such products are often marketed as targeting specific organs, such as fiber for the colon or juices for the kidneys.
For example, just from the above excerpt from the background we can identify, colon cleansing, dietary restriction, dietary supplement, naturopathic and homeopathic remedy as potential body cleanses. Safez (talk) 02:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Detox diet
Merged from Talk:Detox diet
Toxins within Fruits and Vegetables
"it is known that fruits and vegetables actually contain more natural toxins than substances such as meat or fish" --User:67.102.158.90 Well known? I'd like to see some references or some actual data here.
BTW speaking on the topic of "defense mechanice" of plants. It is true but humans long ago already knew that. That is why all pulses and cereals should be soaked for atleast two hours if not overnight before cooking. But nowadays nobody follows that. This deactivates the phytic acid. I never have problem with beans(gas problems) when prepared at home because in our house we soak beans overnight. But if i have it in a hotel I have problems it is obvious that they do not soak it in water and prefer adding some baking soda to it to help it cook faster. Detox diets has shown visible benifits. This seems to be like the research done by other "scientists" on vitamins. They proved that vitamins only gave you expensive pee. But real world has proved otherwise and many people have benifited from vitamin supplements over the years. There is another research that says that vitamins should be taken with meals or else they might not be absorbed by the body. But these "scientists" dont want to tell us that as they are funded by the pharma giants, who now realised that vitamins make people healthy and that is "bad for business". I am sure this research on detox also is some similiear disinformation being spread.
Gwaeraurond's Case in Regards to the nature of Toxins in Foods
Meat bought in a store, and if not certified organic, may contain added chemical preservatives. Fresh fruits and vegetables may also contain trace amounts of chemical pollution through the soil, acid rain and air quality (e.g. roadside berries absorb toxins from exhaust fumes). All of these factors contribute to the quality of the food, and certified organicfoods have air and water polution considerations unless grown in hydroponics. The argument for and against either is very difficult to address. My reason to choose fruits and vegatables over meats is content. Meat is mostly fat and protein, where fruits and vegetables have much more vitamin and antioxidant content. These, even including trace toxins, are simply better for detoxing because
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