pics
this page is full of 'let me take a pic of my stash and post in on wiki"
So? Get over it
cannabis after a hard day
Recently in a newspaper it was claimed that smoking pot after a hard days work, interupted the brain coming down, so to speak. And normal stress and other stuff was not properly released, and caused to back up hence causing crazyness . Any truth??
Amen, I gotta say- "interrupting the brain coming down" is a pretty silly attempt at inventing a danger. In any event, having a few drinks after a long day- while certainly perfectly safe in moderation- is quite objectively a more harmful course of action, seeing as alcohol use is many times more likely to result in physiological addiction and has links to all kinds of fantastic diseases (including multiple cancers)... yet alcohol use remains both legal and out of the news while stories like that one get printed.
..sigh. *endrant* --128.227.95.149 01:08, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Makes sense to me. Cannabis is a stimulant, like coffee, whereas alcohol is a depressant. Best to smoke the cannabis before and during work and then come down from both the work and the cannabis at the end of the day. Normally the strong coffee comes before and not after work and it should be the same with the large spliff/pipe etc, SqueakBox 15:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually, cannabis is a depressent not a stimulant. -Portillo 2006-02-18 03:18:41
Canibis is neither a depressant or a stimulant. This is cuz it doesnt slow the brain down, nor does it cause the brain to speed up. Instead, marijuana simply attatches onto CB-1 receptors in the brain which causes you to get high. Stimulants, exstacy for example causes actuall brain activity to speed up. Depressants, alcohol for example cause the brains functions to slow down. I doubt that any of that has anythin to so with stress and how it is released.
Gateway drug
"Although deaths from Marijuana are unknown, pot is known as a "gateway" drug, leading people into "harder" drugs."
Prometheuspan 01:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC) That line of reasoning comes out of state department propaganda. By that line of reasoning, "sugar" is a "gateway drug." Its a fallacious line of reasoning. Prometheuspan 01:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I would like someone to seriously reconsider the above statement made in the article. I have heard different accounts but i have not been able to come to a definite conclusion through verifiable sources. Could someone please verify the above statement. Thank you.
From an anon user: Yes, many people label pot as a gateway drug, but this is simply because tobacco and alcohol (the true gateway drugs) are not traditionally regarded as "drugs"... Caffeine, ritalin, and adderal are arguably gateway drugs because they build tolerance for stimulants (usually at a young age, when people are first exposed to caffeine, or first perscribed ritalin or adderal).... i may edit something along these lines into the wikipedia page...
Please do edit. I saw a programme a while back that said tobacco is the real gateway drug, and it made a lot of sense to me (former tobacco addict for 17 years, quit now for almost 12). The illegality of cannabis does give it a gateway effect that may be its illegality not the drug itself but we have no way of knowing because there are no places where it is fully legal. Claims that it is a gateway drug should be treated as POV, which means that while they can be included in the article other opposing POV's, such as that tobacco and alcohol are primary gateway drugs, and the gateway ios caused by exposure to other illegal drugs while purchasing cannabis, should also be included, SqueakBox 23:45, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
I Think that just because people who end up doing heroin or smoking crack usually smoked pot at some point in their life before that doesn't mean that if pot didn't exist they wouldnt have done heroin or crack. People who have that capacity have it. its not triggered by using pot.--Matt D 05:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I agree with SqueakBox, the primary reason cannabis usage may lead to other drugs is the illegality of it, the simple fact that in terms of the strength of it's effects, how harmful it is, etc. lies squarely on the same side of the line as caffeine, nicotine, and alcohol, while the law pushes it to the other side of the line, with cocaine, heroine, etc. That is the true gateway. I believe the legalization of recreational cannabis use would result in a marked decrease in levels of harder drug use, if maintained over a full generation. Dansiman 05:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Editorial and meta-discussion
How about a "Cultural Influences" section?
Ummm... no.
New Study! : Pot not a cancer risk
The previous link listed on the subject is no longer available. I have took it off the board. BigMar992 17:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC) Prometheuspan 01:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC) Good, because as much as i favor cannibis, there is a cancer risk, especially for habitual users, and especially for users that smoke rather than eat or vaporize. There is also a protective effect for low level users. Prometheuspan 01:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Bud pic
The bud pic may well have been home grown, but homegrown means something else, certainly not the bud in the picture, so I have moved the homegrown ref as it is not common usage. Are we sure the bud is well cured. More importantly, would it look any diferent where it well or badly cured? If not the comment should be removed, SqueakBox 16:54, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
Rearranging Cannabis/Hemp articles
In the Health issues and the effects of cannabis article there is a request for merging it with this article. However, I can not find a discussion on this. Where should I look for that? Or has there even been a discussion?
The reason I bring this up is that I just wrote a proposal in Talk:Hemp#Two_articles_or_one.3F for rearranging the articles on Hemp/Cannabis, partly to remove the persistent assumption that these are different things (they're not). DirkvdM 07:53, 2005 May 4 (UTC)
Well cured buds are generally of a lighter colour than un-cured buds. The best buds are generally a lime-green in colour. Also, the resin glands are generally more pronounced on well-cured bud.
Completed split of original cannabis article
This article could be split 2 ways. One for the plant biologically, and the other for the affect of cannabis on human culture. Squiquifox 23:52, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Yes, split into Cannabis sativa, Cannabis_(drug), and Cannabis_(law). Split Cannabis_(drug) into more subsections if needed. Cacycle 01:24, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I will split it into Cannabis sativa and Cannabis_(drug), and make cannabis a disambiguation page with connections to both articles. Squiquifox 17:30, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The split has now taken place, and needs a little tidying up, whicjh I will do some of. Please do not undo the work I did. Squiquifox 17:50, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I moved the "Legal issues of cannabis" article to Cannabis (law). --Howrealisreal 03:13, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Er shouldn't there be different sativa and indica pages?
No. What ius the difference between the 2. Whatever it is it is minor and unknown to the majority of people, including users. Who ever heard of someone only using sativa or refusing to use indica, etc? --SqueakBox 15:51, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
Proposal to split spiritual usage info
I think we ought to split off Cannabis (entheogen) or Cannabis (spiritual use) from the main article. Whig 16:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Revert
I reverted the last anon for several reasons; the link does not work; the way this alleged info was stuck at the beginning of the section made it seems very POV, SqueakBox 01:40, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
"The astonishing resemblance between the Semitic 'kanbos' and the Scythian 'cannabis' leads me to suppose that the Scythian word was of Semitic origin. These etymological discussions run parallel to arguments drawn from history. Someone changed that to leads to the assumption , probably not noticing that it's a quote. Which may be caused by the fact that there's no 'unquote', but I'm not sure where to place that. DirkvdM July 1, 2005 08:19 (UTC)
Classification as entheogen
After reading the entheogen article, I am pretty sure that cannabis does not satisfy the heuristics normally applied to entheogens. It has been used in religious ceremonies, but there are not widespread reports of cannabis users having divine revelations, visions, or experiences of a god-like presence while under the influence. Classifying cannabis as an entheogen dilutes the meaning of the term. 210.165.233.136 8 July 2005 08:51 (UTC)
Prometheuspan 01:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC) I can provide detailed Shamanic protocols for Cannibis should that become something theres a place for. Just because you don't know of it, doesn't mean it isn't there. Cannibis has the longest known recorded history of continous use and cultivation of any plant known. Prometheuspan 01:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Nonsense -SM
Rastafari? --Benna 23:16, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Absolutely, and amongst others, SqueakBox 23:57, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Anslinger quotes
I have doubts about the two Anslinger quotes which were in the article.
- "Reefer makes darkies feel equal to white men" - this quote is everywhere but it's never cited properly. The year is alternately
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