Archives
Wow I just archived this page and I realized that there is an arbitrary and inconsistent system for naming the archives. I suggest that someone with the wherewithal standardize them per WP:ARCHIVE. Also, it's probably a good idea to archive this page before it gets to 388 kb. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:24, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Disambiguation
Does anyone object to me moving the "Elvis" redirect page to the disambiguation page? Pasta of Muppets(talk) 03:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
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ELVIS IS BESTES
There appears to be a blob in the date of death of Elvis Preslet. Someone has put in in as January 7, 1977 when it should be 16 August 1977. Thanks SuperTriviaGuy
Comments re my changes, and other suggestions, welcome. 'Bout time this article was upgraded? Rikstar (talk) 19:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The reason why I think nothing has happened with the fourth draft of the first section is because editors have not been happy with the inclusion of Gladys Presley's drinking being mentioned twice in this article. Gladys Presley's drinking seemed to progress as Presley's fame grew,along with her intake of diet pills. The one liner of Gladys Love Smith became an alcoholic is perhaps a little harsh and warrants a little more explanation. Billy Smith : "She was taking diet pills,and she was drinking. She tried hard to hide it from Elvis,but she couldn't."Marty Lacker : "Elvis knew his mother drank. He knew everything. Even if he wasn't with her." Billy Smith : "As a teenager,I could tell when she was inebriated. But she stayed in her room. She was not one to openly drink,not even with family. I guess because she didn't want to be like the rest of them. I wouldn't necessarily call her an alcoholic. Now,my daddy was closer to being an alcoholic than she was. The biggest majority of the time she would go without it,but it seemed like when she got worried,she clung to that real quick." Lamar Fike : "Right before we left for the service,Gladys was getting bloated. The menopause was driving her absolutely screwloose,and she'd take those amphitamines,and she'd wash 'em down with beer. One minute she'd be happy,and the next minute she'd be a raving maniac. And she would be hot one minute,cold the next". Billy Smith : "One reason Aunt Gladys took the diet pills was because she wanted to look good for Elvis in her pictures. She didn't want Elvis to be embarrassed by her size. And Colonel was all the time telling her how to dress,and how to act in public." Source: "Elvis and the Memphis Mafia" by Alana Nash p.132 --Jaye9 (talk) 05:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes,LaraLove tried very hard to get this article into some kind of order and for her efforts was a very welcoming breath of fresh air. Sadly,she no longer is contributing to this article,which is such a shame,as she was a real asset towards it's improvement.
My intention is not to hold this article up,but if I think that something sounds a little left field,I will say something about it.
In the main article (Early Life) it reads,Priscilla Presley recalls her as "a surreptitious drinker and alcoholic" source Presley,p172 Which book is that? I went to the book "Elvis and Me" by Priscilla Beaulieu Presley p172 coincidently,this page in it's entirety does talk about Gladys,however there is no mention about Glady's drinking or being an alcoholic,nor does she mention Gladys being an alcoholic at all in her autobiography.
In the fourth draft of the first section,it says "Gladys Love Smith(April 25,1912 - August 14,1958) who became an alcoholic was voluble,lively,full fo spunk,",excuse my ignorance,but what is in reference to,does it have any connection to what Priscilla Presley supposedly said from the souce taken from the main article. It just seems out of character for Priscilla Presley to say anything like this. As a rule,she comes across as very guarded,you would even say at times sounding scripted.
Of all the books and documentaries I have read and seen on Presley and there have been quite a few,occassionly the subject of Gladys Presley's drinking has been mentioned,as far as her beeing described as an alcoholic,I have only heard this once and that is from the Wikipedia article.--Jaye9 (talk) 10:00, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Elvis is still Alive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.10.214 (talk) 15:47, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
"Though Gladys sank deep into depression in latter years,her basic despostion was always fun-loving,even a little manic,like that of her famous son."
"Gladys was a worker; Vernon was a shirker. Gladys was an ebullient extrovert; Vernon was always upright and distrustful."
"Sometimes,in the evenings,it was obvious that Gladys was drunk. Her voice would glide up into a foolish falsetto; her speech would be badly slurred. Elvis hated to see his mother drunk." (period 1958 when they lived in Killeen)
"Gladys Presley was a women of very unhealthy habits and temperment. She was grossly overweight from improper diet. She never got any exercise. She drank to the point of drunkness but never confessed this to her doctor. The most sinister ingrediant in her self-destructive way of life was the sonsumption of diet pills. Gladys had started using these amphetamive compound years before and increased their usage as she became increasingly dependent on them. It was said in her family that she was ashamed of her obesity and wanted to improve her appearence,especially when Elvis became famous and photographies were constantly taking her picture and printing it in magazines and newspapers. Eventually the amphetamines were bound to have deleterious effect,if not on her body,then on her mind. Extreme irritability of the sort which Gladys displayed in the final months of her life is a typical of amphitamine abuse." p79,81,346,349 "Elvis" by Albert Goldman (paperback)
Even the highly critical Albert Goldman doesn't even mention her being an alcoholic and clearly attributes her increase of her pill intake as being a contributing factor to her premature death at just 46,not unlike her son just 19 years latter at just 42. Perhaps it would be more suited mentioning this in the "Military service and mothers death section." Just a thought. Apart from this, how the "Early Years" section on the main page raads at the moment is fine with me.--Jaye9 (talk) 13:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Presley's father, Vernon ( April 10 , 1916 – June 26 , 1979 ) was a malingerer, averse to work and responsibility. He had several low-paying jobs, including sharecropper and truck driver. His mother, Gladys Love Smith ( April 25 , 1912 – August 14 , 1958 ), was "voluble, lively, full of spunk," and had alcohol problems. She worked as a sewing machine operator. They met in Tupelo, Mississippi, and were married in Pontotoc County on June 17 , 1933 .
Presley was born in East Tupelo, the second of identical twins (his brother was stillborn). As an only childhe was "unusually close to his mother." The family lived in a two room house just above the poverty line. In 1938, Vernon Presley was jailed for a check forgery. The absence of his father "had a profound effect upon Elvis' emotional development".
At age ten, Presley won second prize in a singing contest at the Mississippi-Alabama Fair and Dairy Show for his rendition of Red Foley's "Old Shep".
In 1946, Presley got his first guitar. In November 1948, the family moved to Memphis, Tennessee, allegedly because Vernon had to escape the law for transporting bootleg liquor. At school, Presley was bullied for being different, a stutterer and "a mama's boy." At L. C. Humes High School, he was viewed as "a sad, shy, not especially attractive boy"; some students made fun of him for playing "trashy" hillbilly music.
In 1949, the family lived at a public housing development in one of Memphis' poorer sections. Presley practiced playing guitar in a five-piece band with other tenants. He occasionally worked evenings to boost the family income, and began to grow his sideburns and dress in the wild, flashy clothes of Lansky Brothers onBeale Street. He stood out, especially in the conservative Deep South of the 1950s, and he was mocked for it. Despite any unpopularity, Presley won as a contestant in his school's 1952 "Annual Minstrel Show" singing "Cold Cold Icy Fingers" and "Till I Waltz Again With You".
After graduation, Presley was still rather shy and “more comfortable just sitting there with a guitar than trying to talk to you." His third job was driving a truck for the Crown Electric Company. Like his fellow drivers, he began wearing his hair longer with a "ducktail".
Any comments? Onefortyone (talk) 20:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Ancestry - again
Early years is a mess at the moment because of changes. I deliberately got rid of the "German, Welsh, French, Eskimo, Venusian", etc. - style of list because it was beginning to read like a
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