v • d • e This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink , a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Papaya
I removed this statement: "In a few parts of China, the papaya can be taboo for men." I have never seen it be a taboo food in anywhere in China. I know Chinese tend to say it is good for women, but nobody I have ever heard of says it is a taboo for men.18.138.1.34 (talk) 19:12, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Monkey consumption in Indonesia
I have pointed out the comment about monkey consumption is not referenced and lacks substantiation. This point requires further research as only specific non-Muslim ethnic groups- including Chinese consume monkey- as it is considered Haram (taboo) in Islam.
Starstylers (talk) 10:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)User:Starstylers 17:32 WIB, Mar 14, 2008
Other animals
- Cow -- commonly eaten, uncommonly kept as a pet, religious and cultural taboos (work animal where it is a religious taboo, worshipped in distant past).
- Iguana -- commonly eaten, commonly kept as pet, unknown if there is any taboo
- Ferret -- eaten, commonly kept as pet, unknown if there is any taboo
- Parrot -- uncommonly eaten, commonly kept as pet, there is a pet taboo
- Donkey -- same arguement as horse, but less common, less cute
- Eel, Lobster, Shrimp -- commonly eaten, not kept as pet, religious taboo
- Pig -- commonly eaten, kept as pet, religious & religious and pet taboos
- Koala -- commonly protected by animal groups, unsure if eaten anywhere
- Badger
- Snails
Cats
Surely the consumption of cats in China is much more than just rumour? I have friends who have seen slaughtered cats for sale in butchers' windows and a cursory google search confirms the practice. -- Oarih 18:47, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- A cursory look is not sufficient. A skinned cat looks like skinned rabbit, which we know is used in cooking all over the world. There is also the problem of the Civet Cat. I think we are all aware of the urban legends surrounding the eating of cat, heck I've even read that Dickens writes of cat meat pies being sold on the streets of London in the "The Pickwick Papers". Are these based in some reality? If your friend ate some cat when in China with a Chinese friend have them visit us here on the talk page. --Zenyu 15:26, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Take your pick: . How about, from :
- Ok, the google search pulls up a bunch of hysterical animal rights activists, the china.org.cn site you cite is very light and does not specify that these are not Civet "cats" (nor would it because it is talking about "exotic" chinese food), messybeast has a lot of "one source says" without actually citing any sources. The messybeast is also a website for cat owners, not exactly an unbiased source. Look at this page, obviously Civet 'cats' are hunted and eaten, how do we know that Westerners aren't just confused? Find a cookbook that sepecifies "house cat" as an ingredient -- it doesn't have to be in English, I'll find a translator. I would be glad for an unambiguous resolution of this question, if we put this in with flimsy sources it will get reverted away by someone. --Zenyu 20:58, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)
Prarie Dog
This At the turn of the century rich Northeasters were scandalized when they realized the great meal they had just eaten "Out West" was Prairie Dog.
needs to be reworked. Substantiate. Where was it served and what did they think they were eating? Quill 21:47, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Renaming
I've greatly condensed the renaming debate, since the renaming has taken place now --Zenyu 15:03, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Article needs renaming IMO so that a) people can find it and b) someone can write a good introductory sentence as per Wikipedia style. Quill 20:18, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I agree, it does need a good introductory sentence, but I think the name is on topic and should be easy enough to find.--AirIntake 20:31, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Agree that the title is entirely wrong. Dogs and guinea pigs when used for food are not pets. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I agree title is wrong. Animals being raised as food aren't called pets. The information is very interesting and I think this article should include any animal that is an uncommon food source in any culture. --jag123 03:37, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Let's just remove the word "pet" and keep the list as interesting animals people eat, without placing any kind of special status to any animal. I know several Chinese people who've eaten cat, in a restaurant, so it can't be that rare. They've also eaten dog, so that kinda blows a hole in the "man-dog relationship transcends everything" theory because neither of them thought it was weird, or ashamed, fazed or embarased to admit it. They couldn't even name one person they knew that thought it was weird, including pet owners. --jag123 02:23, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I'm not against eating one of those plump Peru guinea pigs, a 2kg fat juicy rabbit/mouse creature wouldn't be that bad at all barbequed or rotisseried. But a guinea pig in most areas of the world, including mine is still a common animal used as a pet, therefore 'a pet'. It doesn't mean I have to feel bad about it or anything, but that's what it is. --AirIntake 04:23, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- What about re-titling it Taboo meat ? Then you can work in the pet or work animal justifications for the taboo, as well as the religious, racist, and cultural reasons? --Zenyu 23:57, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
- BTW, anyway, pigs need mention as foodpets too. Kwantus 21:54, 2004 Dec 22 (UTC)
- sounds good to me if everyone else agrees. --AirIntake 06:14, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Kangaroo & National symbols
I disagree with the "disdain" for Kangaroo meat by the "typical non-Aboriginal Australian". Kangaroo has appeared on the menus of upscale restaurants in Australia for quite some time now. Its price certainly keeps it from being a common consumer meat, but I don't believe the national symbol aspect is the leading factor -- they're also simply more expensive to farm. mordemur 14:20, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I think the national symbol section is conjecture at best and erroneous at worst. Americans may not eat bald eagle, but who does? What Western nation eats Lion? For that matter, the beaver may be one of Canada's national symbols, but that's because they trapped it for its fur in the 18th and 19th centuries (dunno if they ate it). If there is anything to the argument that people don't eat their national symbols, how about some better examples? -- Oarih 16:22, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
"Kangaroo meat has had a varied history as meat in Australia due to the emotive association, predominantly by foreigners, of kangaroos as pets and a national symbol." - Why would/does the perception of kangaroos by foreigners affect it's consumption by Australians? --70.142.40.34 22:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Pigs are not a martian species
- are forbidden among Muslims because they are unclean and are believed to feed on their own feces. Also because this animal is most scared to them.
Horses
"In Europe horses are specially raised for their meat. These horses run wild and are not trained as carriage animals."? Source? // Liftarn
I've never heard of horses raised for their meat in France. My impression is that the rare places that sell horse meat sell the meat of horses slaughtered after they became too old to work efficiently. However, I may be mistaken. David.Monniaux 10:44, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Horses *are* raised for meat in France. For this reason, the species used are different from the ones used for sports or touring. Historically, legend (this has to be checked) has it that this came to be during Napoleons Russia campaign, where exhausted soldiers on their way back had to eat their dead horses, after which licenses for horse butchery were granted only to former soldiers. Restrictions on the sale of horse food to specific horse butchers remained in force until quite recently (mid-80s, I think). These days, the monopoly is gone, and one can find horse meat in most marketplaces, large supermarkets, some generalist butchers, along with the remaining dedicated horse butchers. Horse meat is a delicacy here: being sweet (sugary) to the taste, tender, and rather expensive, it is not an everyday product. (FGM 01 Jul 2006)
I have now split out the horse meat content per comments below. Garglebutt / (talk) 06:41, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
Japan and horse meat Eating horse in Japan is not unusual, but those serving guests must be cautious, since i
coats faux fur: Bitch New York - Designer Dog Carriers, Designer Dog ...
Home | About Us | Charity | Press | Dog Horoscopes | Customer Photos | Testimonials | Wholesale ... are against wearing real fur (or having your pet wear it) we have these faux fur dog coats ...
Custom made items for you, your home, your dogs, cats, sugar gliders ...
Wholesale prices are available to stores, groomers, or fund ... Dog Coats,Cat Mats,DOG COATS,CAT MATS,dog coats,cat mats,Fur Coats, FUR COATS,Cat Mats,Sport Mats,Fur Mats,Sport ...
Coats & Jackets : Dog Clothes - Dog Leashes - Dog Harnesses - Collars ...
Coats & Jackets Costumes Shirts & Tees Sweaters Dresses & Skirts Suits & Pants ... Polo Style Stripe Dog Sweater $3.99 $2.99 Save ...
Dog Clothes-Dog Clothing-Dog Coats
The perfect dog sweaters,dog coats and apparel to keep your ... some canine clothing manufacturers have dog fur ... Wholesale Pet Products | Wholesale Dog ...
Dog Clothing, Rain Gear for dogs, dog coats, t shirt clothing
Wind & rain gear coats for dogs. Dog T Shirts. Dog Wind and Rain Gear When the wind blows and the ... 13 great styles in prints, solids and faux fur; 98 weight, non-pile, top-quality ...
Wholesale: Bitch New York - Designer Dog Carriers, Designer Dog ...
... Dog Collars, Ed Hardy Dog Clothes, Custom Dog Collars, Designer Dog Bowls, Raised Dog Feeders, Faux Fur Coats for Dogs ... Wholesale. If you have a pet boutique, you may purchase almost ...
Dog Coats, Dog Jackets, Pet Coats by Casual Canine Dog Apparel
Wholesale ... This page offers dog, dogs, dog coats, jackets, outerwear ... East Side Collection Prim Pup Faux Fur Coats $16.99
W. Fur Turquoise Silk Dog Carrier - lovelonglong.com
We are offering Quality W. Fur Turquoise Silk Dog Carrier,dog clothing ... Jackets,Coats & Outwear Oriental Costume Raincoat ... Retail Price: $ 22.99: Wholesale Price: $ 11.50
Reversible Faux Fur Dog Coat with Leopard Print [HC020a] - $9.99 : Dog ...
Dog Clothes - Dog Leashes - Dog Harnesses - Collars - Wholesale Price Reversible Faux Fur Dog Coat ... Home :: Coats & Jackets :: Reversible Faux Fur Dog Coat with Leopard Print
DOG COATS UK - manufactures of dog clothes- greyhound coats- whippet ...
UK Trade Enquiries click here (wholesale dog clothes) ... various other designer dog coats. Information about us ... Lightweight nylon dog coat with no fur/fleece. The perfect dog coat ...