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I think this article needs a photograph of a park golf course and/or ball to be more encyclopedic. Heh.RabidDeity 05:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I think you are right. The game of Park Golf deserves such an honour. I take the photos on Saturday and post them over the weekend.
Pictures are up. Also, the point has been raised that the equipment used to hit the ball should be refered to as a stick rather than a club . I cannot disagree more. There is no sport in the world that uses sticks (except the uncouth quasi-sport of stick-ball) and I think it is an embarrassment to the fine game of Park Golf to use such a vulgar term. Furthermore, from this point hencefore, players should be referred to as Parkers instead of Golfers . Miyazaki203 00:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I see all the courses listed so far are in Miyagi Prefecture. The Parkers of Miyagi must indeed be a committed bunch. Hopefully residents in other parts of Japan will add to this wonderfully informative page. Has anyone nominated it for an award?
I resent the implication that the Magnum F ball is "slightly feminine". You need a citation for such remarks. 219.166.245.4 03:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Fixed it. It now reads "wholly feminine". 219.166.245.4 05:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
The site has been vandalised. Banpei has wiped out huge chunks of the site and lot left any comment as to why. I suggest we revert the page to its state before his unwelcome arrival. Any objections?
I edited it because you could fill a terabyte harddrive with the amount of people who don't play, and I highly doubt Jesus played park golf. So, unless you can site sources, and if this page doesn't take Wikipedia seriously then I will fix it. In the future please sign your comments, and I have asked an outside party to aid in fixing this page. Banpei 04:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
You can bring in all the taskforces you like, but you know nothing about the game of Park Golf. I play it regularly, and I can spot many accurate comments that you have removed. I accept there had to be changes made to streamline the page, but you efforts have actually destroyed a lot of good quality work on a sport that very few English speakers actually play. I don't know what others think about this?
removed sections
I removed the following sections because they sound specious. (Carrying a ball on your shoe sounds like it would unbalance your stride and the weight of carrying a ball would not cause me to put it in my shoe but in my pocket, even if I had to have larger pockets sewn.) The etiquette sounds ridiculous, at least the part about interfering with shots; that's bad sportsmanship. Laughing at bad shots or trying to psyche out your opponent sounds plausible.
If you restore any of this material please document it before doing so.
Ball Holders
A crucial advantage is gained by many competitors when they buy a ball holder. By attaching this to your shoe, you avoid the real inconvenience of having to carry your ball to the next tee-off area, thus lessening the load on your arms and gaining that vital edge. The design of these accessories varies, and Parkers have become a fashion conscious bunch in the last few years. The most expensive ball holder costs 6,000 yen. This luxurious leather item can hold two balls, and even has a space for the Parker's cell phone.
Etiquette
(Was level 2 heading, levl 3 here for appearance) In Park Golf it is quite accepted, even expected, for players to laugh at each others bad shots. In fact many players even try to put each other off their shots. Parkers should also take care to interfere in each other's games, and point out minor rule infringements.
Is there anyone who has ever played park golf? After reading through the page itself, and then through comments to attempt to figure out why someone wrote the page in such a manner, I am left baffled. I personally love playing park golf and participate in tournaments, but I have never heard of players "putting eachother off" or goading each other as if it is part of the sport itself. I'm sorry to say, but this article is probably the most biased article I've ever read on wikipedia. I hope people won't mind terribly if I erase the methods of play section as it is entirely false! Captain Ironspine 16:30, 1 December 2006
Challenge all you like. The consensus on the horder issue is very clear. I think others will agree that your contributions so far have bordered on the comic. You miss the point about the horder. It does not matter what YOU think. It is being sold as a HORDER. This makes it a product. Regardless of what you think the maker's(check out the apostrophe) intentions were, it is a horder, and you have no right to make arbitrary changes because you THINK it might be something else. Where would this nonsense end? In any case, there is a historic precedent for such things. I will leave it to Miyazaki 203 to argue the point over the Japanese rulebook. The comment about bias, like so much of what you write, is a load of cobblers. How can one show bias over such a trivial issue, when no direct interest is involved? Get a grip. Just watch your bullshit - what you have been writing so far is full of it. And your punctuation. "TWO GUY'S" - note the location of the apostrophe. Now I have better things to do than continue an argument with a delusional illiterate.
yen?
Does anyone know the current conversion rate for yen and dollars, off hand? RJFJR 21:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
accessory
The article says: "It is not unusual to see players with several balls clipped to their waist-mounted ball horder."
Is that a hoRder or a hoLder? Can we get a picture of one? RJFJR 21:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I'm trying not to laugh, but it is not "hoRder". Yes, the kana on every package for a ball holder is written in the kana "horuda". That is straight-up english, using katakana to write the sound out in. The sound "ru" is commonly used to sound for the "l" sound used in other languages. It is English for "hoLder" to be absolutely clear. Oh yeah, and not everyone uses a shoe clip to carry their balls around. In fact, that accessory is so minor it probably shouldn't be mentioned in this article as it is not necessary to or popular in park golf. It is just another strange invention that has an incredibly small market, something that always passes after a short time in japan. I've never seen anyone in all of akita prefecture ever use one. I have only ever seen them at the 100 en store amoung other piles of useless crap. Captain Ironspine 17:29, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Some very basic mistakes being made here. The smallest amount of research would tell you that most Parkers use a shoe clip to carry the ball around the course. Clubs ARE available for upto 30 Man. No club is available for 900 yen. CHANGE THIS. It is a horder. DO you think we could wait until we delete more of this site until you people actually find out something about Park Golf? Link to the Japanese site and look at the pictures if you like. But stop vandalising the site. If we have to include pictures of every single item, then the page will just be a ociture book and you will probably complain about that as well. And it would be hard to actually prove the etiquette, but anyone who has lived in Japan would know these sorts of things to be true. Now I have to go and actually play Park Golf now...something I suspect none of the vandals have ever done.
Here is an on-line park gold sales site. http://www.eniwa-choice.com/cgi-shopbuilder2_all/shop/top.html You can see a BALL HORDER on this page; as well, if you follow Club >> Honma you can see a club for roughly 1300 USD. Miyazaki203 02:49, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I did not change the cost of the golf club, only eliminated the top end price, so if you know of the correct price please put it in. Also, unless you can prove that Jesus played park golf and that old people drive their cars onto the range then those "facts" will continue to be left off. I would also highly recommmend creating an account or username, as well as signing your comments, as they are more likely to be taken seriously. Glad to see that this page is finally looking respectable thanks to the cleanup force though! Banpei 03:48, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Sigh. I am Miyazaki203. I never edit anonymously. I was almost sent to hospital by a rogue car that launched through the fence and on to the practice green. Sorry that in my shock I forgot to take a picture for future verification.
Here are pictures documenting the different ways to carry a park golf ball. In hand: http://www.phoenix-c.or.jp/spgc/photo/muromin/040.jpg Single clip on the belt: http://www.phoenix-c.or.jp/spgc/photo/muromin/006.jpg Multiple clip/pouch: http://www.phoenix-c.or.jp/spgc/photo/muromin/042.jpg Shoe cli
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