Picture/text overlap
Minor technical problem: the picture of the iPod shuffle covers some of the text. I would fix it, But I have limited experience with Wikipedia notation. Any more expreienced wikipedians wanna take care of it? -- Comrade009
Article title
A minor niggle - shouldn't this article be titled iPod, not IPod? -- ChrisO 16:03, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Tried moving page to iPod but I guess it's impossible because they are basically the same. Can someone find out if it is possible to rename all incorrectly capitalized iApp/iAccessory names? It's getting annoying... -- Applegoddess 21:46, 18 Feb 2004
Skippingrock
I contemplated moving this to "Apple iPod," similar to Apple iTunes, but then decided against (and moved it back). It is sold as the iPod, not the Apple iPod. cuiusquemodi 21:00, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Needs Updating
I'm surprised the latest revision of the iPod lineup isn't already put up. 2G mini, cheaper mini, 30 gig ipod photo... Dave 07:02, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)
External links
Several of the "external links" in this article really didn't belong here, in my opinion. I moved some of them to relevant places in the article itself, and then I removed the rest. Just now I reverted someone's edit which put them all back! If we allow fan and commercial web sites to have links from Wikipedia articles, then we're going to have to allow every fan and commercial web site to link from Wikipedia. And fan sites are more likely to become dead links - one of the links which was restored goes to a 404 page. External links should only be to primary sources or extensive background information not easily found elsewhere, or when a fan site is the definitive reference for something (like, say, "The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5"). Here are some other discussions on the topic.
- Links to fan sites
- Wikipedia_talk:External_links#More_restrictive_policy_on_external_linking
- Brian Kendig 18:19, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I added a link to MLAgazine's history of the iPod
Tomhormby 14:35, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Cut-down version of Mac OS X?
A recent edit added this assertion: The basic core operating system of the iPod is a cut-down version of Mac OS X, and incorporates QuickTime. Is that really true? My understanding is that the iPod runs an OS which was written specifically for it, not one which is derived in any way from Mac OS X. And while it is compatible with some file formats which QuickTime recognizes, I don't believe it actually has QuickTime software in it, does it? - Brian Kendig 02:58, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Ummmm... Can we delete this entire section involving Mac OS X? It was obviously a mistake. Rskjr 17:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Criticism
I find the new "Criticism" section in the article to be somewhat biased. It seems like the author believes that Apple has an obligation to open the iPod to music formats which compete with Apple's own, and the wording of this section (especially things like "Apple responded ferociously") seems to imply that Apple is being a bully by not licensing its own file format. To the contrary, I believe that if Apple allowed competitors to sell protected music for the iPod, then competitors would do so - and at a cheaper price than Apple, because the competitors don't have to shoulder the cost of iPod research and development, and this would undercut Apple Music Store sales and possibly spell the end of the iPod. - Brian Kendig 03:16, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The edits people have made are good. I just tried some more edits to the section, moving some things around - anyone, feel free to hack it up if you're not satisfied. Paul, if you feel that any part of the article is POV, please feel free to edit it to bring it closer to NPOV, rather than trying to balance negative POV against positive POV. - Brian Kendig 17:48, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Incidentally, if AAC is an open standard and it's easy to create unprotected AAC files for the iPod, I'm curious to know why there are no players from Creative, Samsung, Archos, iRiver, or any of the other major manufacturers that can play plain-vanilla AAC or M4A files, DRM issues aside. I would think that this would be a niche that manufacturers would be more than happy to fill--especially the ones that make solid state players, which could easily be marketed as iPod companions. I'm not trying to imply anything or be critical; I'd genuinely like to know and can't find anything about it. If there's a reason, it should probably be mentioned either here or in a related article. --Paul
--156.34.37.60 01:12, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Harmony
Is it worth it to point out that although Apple released the firmware upgrade that disabled Harmony AAC files on November 18 the story didn't break until December 14.
iPod shuffle
I started to edit the entry to introduce the new iPod shuffle , but that's easier said than done, since it trickles through the rest of the page, since the iPod shuffle is such a different beast, and is actually more similar to non-iPod players (it's not hard-drive-based, it doesn't use a scroll wheel, it doesn't use Firewire, etc). I'm thinking it's different enough to put on it's own page instead instead of the big re-write this page needs to accomodate it (then again, such a rewrite may eventually be needed). Thoughts? -- Kaszeta 20:24, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Models
Just separated out the distinct models (iPod, iPod mini, iPod U2 Special Edition, iPod photo and iPod shuffle) from the different iPod generations. It was getting confusing having them all mixed in. While I think the iPod U2 and the iPod photo are really just enhanced 4G iPods, the Apple site lists them as separate. -- 00:40, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
White Earbuds
I put in a section about the ipods included earphones, but Austin Hair thought it was "imbecilic, repetitive, and thoroughly pointless". The first one is just a child like insult. The one who is really imbecilic is the one who wrote the comment. And it's not pointless, because I feel the ipods earbuds are an important part of the iPods style. Saying the "the line's distinctive white", doesn't fully explain the significance of the earbuds. Reub2000 02:43, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This was the full text of the section:
Judge for yourself. A.D.H. (t&m) 20:12, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
Should we allow competing models in the "See Also" area?
I mean, competition is business related... and would be better if people linked to a general DAP article rather than other players (as articles should stay specific). What do you think? --Mrmiscellanious 23:32, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Of course, it's not so much competition but rather providing users with access to information on similar devices! All the other DAPs have similar links and no one has complained. --Madchester 00:10, 2005 Mar 5 (UTC)
Size of article (32KB at writing)
The article is 32 KB to long, as of writing. I'm new, and I don't have much time to practice in the sandbox beacause of school, so here is what I will suggest for others to do. I hope that's alright with you.
Would removing the photos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ipod-internals.jpg, http://en.wikipeadia.org/wiki/Image:Lightmatter_ipodvsmini.jpg, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ipod3g.jpg help? In my opinion they don't really add anything important to the article. Internal components could have cropped pictures with a scale imbedded in the photos to show their relative size. Including a scale might also make finding the absolute measurments of the components easier, althought I see no reason why detailed technical specifications should be included in the article.
Overall, I'm of the opinion that this site has had a lot of contributions form Apple fans. While I can understand a desire to showcase the technology, is this kind of stuff relevant?
The critcism section seems a bit one sided (favouring apple). Especially in places like " As the market leader , iPod has become the subject of criticism..." and "Consumers who want to download songs from the extensive iTunes music catalog to their digital audio players have no choice but to purchase an iPod" (emphasis mine)
Vandalism
I saw that User:Grstain just reverted for vandalism on the article. Although it looks like I apparently vandalized the article, I actually removed vandalism on my revert there (the same vandalism that User:Grstain removed).
--MusicAndMath 21:43, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
Gapless Playback
"The iPod range is also unable to play gapless music (where one track runs into another without a noticeable "gap" or period of silence between them)."
I believe this has been addressed with the latest iTunes release, but I can't find a refrence on Apple's website (I'm sure I read it there.. something about gapless play for concept albums)... I'll keep looking... -- 24.36.103.70 02:04, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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