For a previous VFD discussion on this article, see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Crew cut.
"of the time" & citation
"The term was most likely coined to describe the haircut worn by members of the Yale rowing crew. The name drew a contrast with football players of the time , who wore long hair to compensate for flimsy leather helmets." What time period? And shouldn't this all be cited? 98.221.133.96 (talk) 13:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
1910-1920s. You are welcome. Ortolan88 (talk) 16:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC) Actually, 1890s, but you are still welcome. Ortolan88 (talk) 17:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)The link at the Yale Alumni Magazine article gives the time as the mid 1920's . The Riddell link is dead. However I managed to find the article. There is nothing in the article with regard to the sport of Crew or a contrast between Rower's haircuts and Football players haircuts. It was Princeton Football that purportedly started wearing long hair. In 1895 Yale Football players showed up with short hair cuts which of course could not have been called Crew Cuts since the name wasn't coined for another three decades.BB Sean M (talk) 19:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
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isn't that a butch hair cut? it looks extremely short to me... 70.48.118.140 20:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
It's actually a Recon Haircut as the hair is shaved completely off the back and sides and with the shaved area extending on to the crown. There is no transition tapering between skin and hair. A very extreme haircut even for Marines. It would be ridiculous enough to have a Photo of a Hn'T Crew Cut as Representative of a Crew Cut since a Hn' T Crew Cut is an extreme variant that has been worn by very few guys who wear Crew Cuts both at present and from a historical perspective, but having a photo of a Recon is just spreading misinformation. For example here is a public photo of the Back and Side of a Marine wearing a Hn'T Crew Cut( The Marine on the far left.):
Hn'T Crew Cut
BB Sean M (talk) 19:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)== butc
Butch (haircut) links to lesbian page. I've removed the sentence since it contributes nothing to the article--all it does is suggest a synonym. 24.63.170.16 16:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Butch Cut is not a synonym for Crew Cut. Crew cut is a 20th century American English name for a Short Pompadour or Short Pomp Haircut. There were two varieties of Short Pomps. The Round Top which acquired the name Crew Cut and the Brush Top which acquired the 20th Century American English name Flat Top. A Brush Top Short Pomp was also know as a Short Cut with a Brush Top Effect. A Short Pomp was also know as a Brush Cut. So Short Pomp = Brush Cut = Crew haircut = Crew Cut and Flat Top Crew Cut or later Flat Top. And Short Brush Cut = Butch Haircut = Butch Cut = Butch. The difference between a Crew Cut and a Butch is in the design of the top. The back and sides are largely cut the same. The top of a Crew cut is graduated in length from the longest hair at the front hairline to the shortest at the back of the crown. The effect is that when viewed from the front a Crew Cut has a slight curve from side to side. When the head is viewed in side profile the outline of a Crew Cut approaches the horizontal. The graduation of length is in accord to the desired length at the front hairline and the degree of slope of the skull to the front hairline and the desired length at the back of the crown. Whatever it takes to approach a horizontal appearance when viewed in side profile and with the hair combed back up off the forehead and standing on end in the short pompadour style. A typical Ivy League Style Crew cut might be 1.5" at the Front hairline and 0.5" at the back of the crown. Butch Wax is used to groom Butch Cuts, Crew Cuts and Flat Tops.
Butch was and still is used to describe very masculine boys and often and to a certain extent still is a nickname given to such boys. It is less used now for boys and for a while fell out of use to describe butch haircuts because of the words recent use to describe a certain type of lesbian BB Sean M (talk) 20:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The haircut names were apparently used interchangeably in colloquial conversation among friends but were also generally used by customers to describe the haircuts the names specifically referred to. Those are the same names that were used to describe the haircuts on the standard haircutting charts that were on the walls of many Barber Shops of that era. The chart seen on the wall of Floyd's Barber Shop in the Andy Griffith show was the most popular. The other popular chart was the "Modern Haircutting Chart," the one seen on the back wall of the Concrete Barber Shop in the movie "Boy's Life." Both charts depict a Crew Cut, Ivy League, Butch and Flat Top. The Floyd's Chart's Flat Top with Fenders is essentially a Flat Top Boogie on the "Modern Haircutting Chart." At the same time it should be recognized that the short haircut represented by the word Crew Cut was at first popular in the Ivy League and at eastern prep schools. References to the word in the 1920's, 1930's and 1940's usually are linked with something to do with an Ivy League University, Student, Alumnus, Professor or Style.For instance:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,763809,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,804905,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,890994,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,943335,00.html
http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/02_04/old_yale.html
http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/1168
Among the general population, Crew cut probably did not come into widespread usage till the 1950's when the style became popular among a wider segment of the population. Flat Top was first Flat Top Crew Cut to distinguish the type of Crew Cut with a Flat Top from the version with a Round Top which accounts for Crew Cuts and Flat Tops both being referred to as Crew Cuts in general conversation of that era. It was a later convention in that era to refer to a Flat Top Crew Cut as a Flat Top rather than a Crew Cut. Some may have referred to a Crew Cut as a Butch in conversation among friends but I doubt a guy would say he wanted a Butch to a Barber unless he indeed did want a Butch Cut rather than a Crew Cut or Flat Top. Butch and GI cut are often seen used interchangeably and were likely synonyms of that era.One very popular Barbering text in a completely revised 1967 edition states that many barbers refer to a Crew Cut as a Short Pompadour or a Brush Cut. This text was originally published in 1938. I have a 1959 reprint of the 1938 edition and no where in it are the words Crew Cut, Flat Top or Butch Cut found. Instead Short Pompadour, Brush Top Short Pompadour, Round Top Short Pompadour, Short Cut with a Pompadour effect, and Short Cut with hair following the natural shape of the head. Another very popular barbering text that had also been published since the late 1930's in a 1971 reprint of the 8th edition, 1969, states that until a few years ago crew cut was used synonymously with short pompadour or brush cut. This text gives Short Brush Cut as an alternative name for a Butch Cut. In the College and High School Yearbooks I have seen from the 1950's and 1960's, I have not yet come upon one that has more than a handful of photos of guys with Butch Cuts. Flat Tops, Crew Cuts and Ivy Leagues each far outnumber the Butches.BB Sean M (talk) 02:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Crew Cut: alternate names
A few of the more common alternate English language names for a Crew Cut . Most are for a Long Crew Cut . Ivy League which is short for Ivy League Crew cut . Also Princeton and Princeton Cut , Standard Crew Cut , Classic Crew Cut , French Crop , Olympic Cut and Harvard Clip . In addition Short Pompadour , Short Pomp , Round Top Short Pomp and Brush Cut are as has already been discussed, names that have been used far longer than Crew Cut to describe the style.BB Sean M (talk) 19:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Adopted by United States armed forces during WWII
The Crew Cut may have been worn by certain members of the United Sates Armed Forces during WWII but stating the Crew Cut was adopted implies that there was some sort of order or decree that Crew Cuts had to be worn by all male members of the armed forces.
A short butch cut was the typical United States armed forces induction cut during WWII, referred to at the time as a GI cut but was that required after training was completed?
Also the wearing of a butch haircut was not unique to the United States armed forces during WWII. The practice started during WWI with the British, as a means to combat insect spread diseases such as trench fever, which is spread by lice. However, Trench Fever is spread by body lice not head lice. Head lice are not known to spread disease. BB Sean M (talk) 18:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Crew Cut and Conservative Political Opinions
In 1964, and 1965 the left and the new left were by and large not wearing long hair. In many of the photos of the FSM at Berkeley, guys are seen wearing short taper cuts, Ivy League Crew Cuts , and Flat Top Crew Cuts along with a c
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