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I can't believe someone would take such a move. Do people ever learn. Anyway, it always form a good story once they #REDIRECT get burnt. Quote "in financial markets, where hedge funds have been borrowing at lower short-term rates and lending out at higher long-term rates on the assumption that Alan Greenspan and the Federal Reserve have slain the inflation dragon and would do nothing precipitous to jeopardize their "carry trade."
The View from the future
Am I the only one who thinks this line is at least odd (if not incorrect):
"At the beginning of 21st century it was regarded by some as a "fashionable" type of investing, since hedge funds saw large inflows of money during that time." Axamoto 14:28, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Hurdles/HWM
Hurdles and Highwater marks definitely need to be spelled out here (by someone with a better financial literacy than I).
Also, side pockets.
The article could be improved by this -- hedgefunddot.
Hedge Fund Managers
What is the point of the hedge fund managers section. There are over 8000 hedge funds, and thousands of managers manage them. What is the criterion to get on the list? Jim Cramer, for example, doesn't even manage a Hedge Fund any more? Awormus 21:49, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Macro Funds
I noticed that Macro Funds (such as Soros' itself) where not included as a Hedge Fund Class. Shoudn't they be included?
Sentence with no ending
"While most of today's hedge funds still trade stocks both long and short, many do not trade stocks at all and the term hedge fund has come to mean a"
Why does this sentence simply have no ending?
This sort of stuff looks really bad..
Article lacks critical perspective, reads like industry handout
I think this article is problematic in several ways, and overall reads as if it were written by a hedge fund trade association.
For example, early in the article is a reference to a study of incentive fees that examined mutual funds, , not hedge funds, and went on to editorialize that larger hedge fund fees are good.
I have removed the above, erroneous reference and also added a section on criticism of hedge funds, which the article sorely needs. I hope others can expand on that section and fix this article generally.--Mantanmoreland 20:29, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
criticisms
Deleted the sentence: "Other criticism involves potential hazards posed to investors. These concerns relate to hedge fund insolvency as the result of: market setbacks, the negligence of management, or even, in some widely publicized instances, outright criminality." to the extent such criticisms exist they're not only uninformed, the miss the point that hedge funds are lightly regulated precisely because people with sufficient assets to invest in them are generally sophisticated enough (or have access to sophisticated advice) on those risks, and in any case market setbacks, management negligence and outright criminality are in no way specific to hedge funds. All financial investments, even putting money in a cheque account, involve all of these risks. These "hazards" are called "risks". There is no reward without risk. ElectricRay 22:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Link not working
The link "How to Set Up Your Own Hedge Fund and Due Diligence, Disclosure and Fund Managers - by Hannah Terhune, JD LLM (Taxation, New York University)" seems not to be connecting to the server right now, does anyone else have this problem? I'm going to give it a few days then take it off. If someone has a reason not to do this, please let me know! 1:28 am CT June 19th 2006
SEC Add
I cant tell reading the section about govt regulation where the SEC presently stands.
As I understand it , the SEC lost a case litigating whether or not SEC rules were ok requiring hedge funds to be registered with the SEC ; AND , just yesterday, the SEC stated it would not appeal that federal court decision.
SO, the SEC does NOT require hedge funds presently to be registered and can NOT by that recent federal court case.
See
- SEC wont appeal federal court overturning SEC's hedge fund rules
,,,,bigwilly2hedge,,,,
Update, Hedge Fund Crashes section
see today NY Post http://www.nypost.com/business/hedge_funds_flameout_may_scuttle_abn_deal_business_zachery_kouwe.htm
see this weeks New York: Angelo Hagiligannis wipes out $180 million hedge fund and then disappears .... http://newyorkmetro.com/news/businessfinance/23171
Angelo is one of the 1000s of Hedge Fund managers with clown level experience having only 1 year experience as only a broker assistant at Merrill Lynch
Where were Hedge funds?
Where were hedge funds designed to make higher returns during the advance of the DJIA from 1,000 to 11,700 from about 1988 to 2000 ???
And where was your regular brokerage firm as Merrill , Goldman, Soly, Morgan Stanley, First Boston, Lehman --- none of them either hedge funds or major Wall Street firms made like anything during this most major rally in history... what they did make was pitling small when with levereage any of them - hedge funds or major firms - should have been making then and now 10 +++ billion per year in profits ... which one did ???
NOT A SINGLE FRKG ONE none of them... does this clue you in to how pitiful they ALL are ????
- and your point would be? ElectricRay 13:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
! markit pro
add transparency section
the special reason for SEC , regulator concern, would be the heavy "touting" by hedge fund managers of facts simply not only untrue but clearly fraud... as done by one of the largest funds out there, (over 10 billion, top 5 hedge fund) ,,,,eye witness-gintwillysr (< not touting , factual ?),,,,
Funds of Funds
The funds of funds listing has been removed several times, I am personally against needing to list the funds (especially since most of the external websites being linked to hold no information. However they have been removed several times for no apparant reason, so we should come to an agreement about their place on the page. Awormus 20:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Limited Partnerships???
Ummmm...rubbish. Many US HFs are LLCs. Most overseas are LTDs. This is to say nothing of the abundance of SPCs. HedgeFundBob 13:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- completely agree - have removed this reference from the introduction. ElectricRay 13:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
hedge fund
hi there would you tell me please, if hedge fund gaurantee an activity?
i will if (a) you sign your post and (b) your post makes grammatical sense. Right now, it doesn't. ElectricRay 13:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
News Articles?
Are newspaper articles properly included in these pages? They do not add anything to the content, and quickly become outdated. Shouldn't they be removed?
Error or otherwise unclear section
In the section "Equality long short", there's a paragraph about risk metrics (presently the one before the last). It reads "Net exposure is long exposure less short exposure and in our example above would be 100 - 50 = 50 USD or 50%.". Shouldn't it be " 150 - 50 = 100 USD or 100%."?
LMB 14:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Example on How Fees are Charged is Confusing
Misterwiki39393 02:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I was very confused by what is written below about how fees are charged(copied from the article). Can somebody give an example with a real dollar amount? For example, suppose somebody invests $1000 and it goes up 20% in 1 year. How much is the management fee, and how much is the performance fee? You mention a 2 and 20. Is the 2% a percent of $1000, $1200, or some other number? And where does the 20% come in? Is that supposed to be 20% of 200, or does the 2% come off first?
"The typical hedge fund charges what is known in the industry as 2 and 20 by which is meant that management fees are 2% per annum and performance fees are 20% of whatever returns are generated. All these fees apply to gross asset values and gross pe
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