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This entire section seems to be written by a Coach PR rep. Could this be improved? 71.163.125.75 (talk) 21:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Move
I have moved this section to the alk page, I don't believe it belongs in the article since It can all be found on the official website. And is rather more like a FAQ than an encyclopedia entry. -- Dark fred Talk to me 19:08, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
How To Tell Real From Counterfeit Coach Bags
These are several ways to tell if your Coach item is real or fake.
Dust Bag : Official Coach dust bags are brown with the Coach creed on the front of the bag.
Serial Numbers : All Coach items are identified with a Coach logo, serial number, and/or Coach creed. Larger items such as handbags, briefcases, and backpacks will have the Coach creed and corresponding serial number inside the product. The older Coach items have serial numbers consisting of 7 to 8 numbers with a dash between the 3rd and 4th numbers or 4th and 5th numbers. The newer serial numbers consist of 3-4 letters and numbers, followed by a hyphen and 4 more numbers. Smaller items, such as wallets, cosmetic cases, PDA Cases, belts, etc., may only have a Coach creed on the inside or an embossed logo on the exterior leather. A select few of the older vintage Coach items have only a Coach creed without the serial number.
Tags : Most Coach items come with a Coach Hang tag or Lozenge. However, some do not and sometimes they just get lost. A Coach Hang Tag can be an indication of an authentic Coach item if the item meets the specific anti-counterfeit criteria, and the printing of the word Coach is centered and even on the Hang Tag. The good news about hang tags is that if the authentic, used Coach bag is missing its hang tag a replacement can be ordered from Coach for free.
Design : On the outside of the bag, the "C's" are big and always paired. There is never an odd number of "C's" in a row on the bag. Also, a "C" is never cut off by the seaming. On a fake, the "C" pattern will be off - if the end of the "CC" does not touch the side of the other "CC" in the pattern, it is probably fake. Sometimes the "CC" will actually be a "GG" as well.
SIGNATURE styles: Signature styles are symmetrical, meaning that the Signature "C's" line up perfectly. The center seam on both sides of the bag should look like one continuous piece of fabric with the center dividing the bag like a mirror image. If the "C's" are off alignment, it is most likely counterfeit.
Material : Most Coach products are made of glove tanned leather - a leather that goes through the same tanning process as that of a baseball glove. The leather of Coach handbags, briefs, and backpacks is typically heavy, thick, and it darkens, softens, and takes on characteristics such as wrinkles and "scratches" as it ages. While Coach uses other materials, such as twill, suede, Sonoma leather, and other pebbled texture leathers, Coach never uses faux leather or vinyl.
Also, leather Coach products have at least one Coach stamp on it, whether it is on the lower end of one side or on the leather that attaches the shoulder strap to the bag. Make sure the word 'Coach' is outlined. Beneath it, there should be the word 'Leatherware' and beneath that it has '1941'. If the leather stamp it is sewn on, or has stitching around it, it may be fake.
Stitching : Stitching on a Coach item should be even. Most often, the stitching is of the same color as the leather. Sometimes the stitching is a contrasted color, but will still be even in appearance, with small stitches that are sturdy and professional looking. Stitches that are too big, uneven, or of a funky color may be an indication that the Coach item is counterfeit.
Hardware : Coach uses solid brass hardware, nickel hardware, or gunmetal hardware - all high quality metals that have a little weight to them. While any hardware is prone to tarnish with age, the hardware on Coach bags should never peel or chip, which would indicate a coated metal. Zippers, turnlocks, and buckles should be high quality and well made.
Spam on the page
It seems that this page has some issues with spam links. In the past this has been done by Nesquik22 but has most lately been done by IP address 68.59.84.78 (these users both posted to the same website, Coach Handbags, and Nesquik22 has even been blocked for doing so). For some reason 68.59.84.78 also removed the "companies established in 1941" category and the "fashion" category from this article, but I have since replaced them on the page. I think we should keep an eye on this. Phlo452 06:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
PR Speak and speculation
I take issue with the statement "Coach leather products tend to be somewhat expensive to some, but very well-made, using a thick, supple, high-quality leather that obtains a patina with age, and sturdy metal rivets and hardware (often solid brass)."
Expensive to some is too relative for a wikipedia article, this statement might be allowable if average prices of coach products were shown in comparison to other companies products. Also, in my personal experience Coach products are anything but well made, the stitching used is often inadequate to support the weight of the product and the leather is of a low quality that stains easily from even drops of water.
Coach has implemented internal systems like SAP
This sounds a little like a press release from Coach or the ramblings of a Coach fan.
Fair use rationale for Image:Coach Print.jpg
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Coach Product Manufacturing Locations
Does anyone know where the purses are made? I'm wondering if they are sweat-shop factories, or do the workers get fair wages? TDRSS (talk) 01:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
My revert
I just reverted a large amount of edits (diff) because they had added copyright promotional material (, ), and guide material sourced to a blog (). --Muchness (talk) 23:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Stiching
Usually all of the stiching is one by hand never by a machine. You can tell by the neatness of it. If it is neat it is real if it isnt it is a fake —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.132.60.13 (talk) 00:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Change in style and materials
Much of this article refers to the older thicker "glove leather" style of Coach bags which has since been replaced with a newer style emphasizing logo-fabric and patent leathers. (As an earlier commenter noted, the new bags seem to have a different style of stitching than the older bags.) I was hoping that the history would indicate when the change in style occurred, and if there has been a change in manufacturing, leadership and/or corporate policy. 4 November 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.68.39 (talk) 15:
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