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Tony Anthony - new article created
I thought it was strange that there was no article on Tony Anthony, but I guess it was deleted in June because it was unsourced and non-notable. I wrote a new article today on a subpage of my user page that includes sources, but I was hoping someone could look it over before I actually create a new article. If it will just be deleted again, I can put some more work into it. If it will be considered good enough, I'd like to post it so that people with a little more knowledge of Anthony can help out.
And, if it's good enough to post, do I just add it back to the page it was deleted from? I'm fairly new to Wikipedia and I've never created an article before (let alone one that was previously deleted). Thanks to anyone who can help.
User:GaryColemanFan/TonyAnthony
GaryColemanFan 17:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I added some more references and I've created the article, so it's now up at Tony Anthony. I'll keep working on finding a bit about his personal life. I know that he was married at one point, but I don't know if they're still together. And I have absolutely no idea how to distinguish a free use picture from any other picture. Anyhow, your help with my first article creation is greatly appreciated. GaryColemanFan 23:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Punjabi Prison Match
I think we should create an article for the Punjabi Prison Match, it is a unique match that is not similar to any other in TNA or WWE. It should have a seperate, such as the Elimination Chamber and Hell In a Cell becasue of its uniique nature, anyone agree or disagree?
Ugh. The steel cage match article is terrible. It needs some definite attention, sourcing, and cleaning up. Nikki311 23:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Notification of GA Nomination coming up
Well in accordance with the proposed guideline that just kinda fizzled out I just want to notify the members of this project that once the Fabulous Kangaroos becomes a GA my next article up for nomination will be Al Costello, it's already been worked over by Naha who's been giving me some great feedback - but it can always stand another pair of eyes or 3 before I nominate it so if anyone feels like having a look I'd appriciate it. MPJ-DK 18:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Review request
Can someone with some knowledge of this sport take a look at The Smokin' Gunns? I can't tell if it would make sense to an expert but as an outsider I find it not entirely clear. RJFJR 20:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
2008 WWE PPV's
I've noticed people adding dates for WWE PPV's after WrestleMania XXIV, but none of them have provided any sources. Should we remove them right now, or put tags up and give them a few days to provide sources? TJ Spyke 03:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Mshake3 04:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
And just for the heck of it, Mshake3 05:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
WrestleMania logo
Ok, so there seems to be some debate on whether the next WM is going to be titled "WrestleMania 24" or "WrestleMania XXIV." 3bulletproof16 has uploaded Image:WrestleMania24logoNEW.JPG, using the source of "wwe.com", but does not point to the full URL where the image is actually located. He has also redirected "WrestleMania 24" to "WrestleMania XXIV."
Doing a search of both wwe.com and corporate.wwe.com for "WrestleMania XXIV" or just "XXIV" yields zero results for both articles and images. However, doing a search for "WrestleMania 24" on WWE.com yields 3 pages of results. In addition, page 5 of the latest issue of WWE Magazine, the "2007 Fall Preview" Special Issue Sept/Oct 2007 (which I have in my posession and incidently has a fairly interesting interview with CM Punk) has a full page advertisement for "WrestleMania 24" using this WrestleMania 24 logo (as opposed to a "XXIV logo"). Furthermore, www.orlandocentroplex.com (the location of WrestleMania 24), also uses this picture.
Ok and as I was typing this, my husband walked in after just checking the mail and plopped down an ever newer edition of WWE Magazine on my desk (November 2007 w/ Undertaker on the cover) and on page 25, it again uses the "24 logo."
Whether or not WWE plans to change to using a "XXIV logo", I have no idea, it may very well happen, but right now I can't find any proof that the "XXIV logo" is legit and actually from WWE. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, or in the correct places, I don't know. If someone can show proof that WWE has switched to the roman numeral logo, that would be great. Thanks, --Naha| (talk) 18:43, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
So it's the same thing, an on sale promotion date. Still, the TV Commercial was made more recently, so I have to side with that. In fact, I'd bet that next month's magazine will have the same ad with the new logo. Mshake3 05:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
PWI's list of wrestling World Heavyweight Title reigns and PWI's list of wrestling World Heavyweight Title reigns by length
I question the value of having these articles at all. Particularly the second, it is fraught with problems, not the least of which is adequate citations to show what titles were "world" titles when, having the table accurately depicting only those champions from the time periods in question and not others (although the reverse also seems an issue, that champions have been removed wholesale because the titles in question are either not now or were not at some point counted), and most troubling is that it (both of them, actually) directly contradict another article, that being World Heavyweight Championship, which currently states the following
" NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1948-1991 / 2002-2007) - claims lineage of George Hackenschmidt's 1905 and Frank Gotch's 1908 version, defended in multiple territories and promotions since 1948, used in Total Nonstop Action Wrestling from June 2002 to May 2007. Although it was stripped of its World Title status by PWI in 1991, with the recent success of TNA, PWI restored its World Title status officially in its August 2006 issue since it began being used in TNA in 2002. Shortly after NWA and TNA severed ties, NWA was quietly stripped of its World Title status, while TNA retained theirs. "
Yet Adam Pearce is listed in both the above mentioned articles. This quite obviously can't all be true.
And yes, I think it's a load of mularkey that what one magazine (which has rarely if ever paid attention to smaller companies - their Match of the Year for 2006 was Shawn Michaels vs. Vince McMahon for chrissakes), time-honored and well-respected though it may be, says on the issue is treated like Gospel, but as I hope I've shown that's really beside the point. These articles have issues, issues that need dealing with, and in my mind (though I doubt anyone would agree with me on this) something this synthetic doesn't cry out for an article to begin with.
And then there's PWI's list of wrestling World Tag Team Title reigns, but World Tag Team Championship makes only three passing mentions of PWI, not like World Heavyweight Championship, the pro wrestling section of which makes it clear what its definition of "World Heavyweight Championship" is (despite, again, that being contradicted in PWI's list of wrestling World Heavyweight Title reigns and PWI's list of wrestling World Heavyweight Title reigns by length)
I think I'm rambling, and my points have probably been made somewhere in there. Cheers to anyone who read through all that :) Nosleep1234 15:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- I also think it's a bit ridiculous how we cling so tightly to PWI's definition of a world title, especially considering how America-centric it appears to be. I think WP:PW's reliance on PWI on this matter needs to end, because nothing I've seen would really seem to indicate that it's an "official" source on the subject. --MarcK 23:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed, and that's why I question the merits of these articles at all. I would remove Adam Pearce from the tables, since it seems most likely that TNA kept its world title status and the NWA belt is now (LOL) "just an indy title" like the ROH, PWG, and CZW championships (especially considering the NWA title has lost its status in the past), but there's no citation one way or the other. If I weren't so dead certain of the outcome, I'd raise the issue of abandoning PWI's definition of a world title on a larger scale. Nosleep1234 19:15, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
That was really just an off-the-cuff remark. Care to address any of the other issues? I'm not saying we should include every fed that calls their belt a world title, I'm saying it's pointless to have these articles at all , considering that what they document is so subjective and synthetic. Nosleep1234 01:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
411: TNA Slammiversary
This is a 411 to the PW community: there is a discussion HERE regarding the page movement of the Slammiversary articles. Please post any discussion at the highlighted link, not here. Thank you! MI TB
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