Hi, I've just edited the page in response to the alert, and it's slightly better, but it still needs a lot of work. Really, it could do with some examples of the better known asanas, and some photographs.
I hope someone other than me is up to the task.
Wikipedia as an advertising medium?
I question if the article should be linking to a commercial site's store section (twice, under Yoga Asana (Poses or Postures)) --68.107.236.198
Clean-up
I've basically deleted a whole volume of text within 'selected asanas', seeing as their now seems to be a list of asanas section, and people are at work filling in all of the asanas, which is a monumental, but truly worthy task. I will try and help with it. --Krsnajinana 20:51, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
move
Asana means "posture", but the word posture meaning is not limited to yoga. So "yoga posture" is yogasana, as a standalone article would be more precise. So i moved "asana" to "yogasana". Still while referring it inside yoga articles can be just "asanas", since withing yoga articles asana is unique. But in general yogasana would be more precise, especially while referring from articles that are not related to yoga. Lara_bran 04:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Works related to Yoga Sutras at Wikisource
see also
see also's are important for navigation purpose, someone who comes here should find some ways to go. i dont understand removal. That yoga template is nothing but useless for someone who doesnt know sanskrit or indian languages. Please keep it. thanks. Lara_bran 06:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Opinion Poll on this article's name
There is some discussion on the name of this article. This poll suggest three options, originating from the discussion: "Asana", "Yogasana" or "Yoga asana" . If you are acquainted with the subject, you are invited to drop your opinion below. Please don't add more than 8 words as a maximum to understate your opinion, to not loose overview. If you think that more comments are necessary, you can remark at a section above or start a new one below. Davin7 09:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
So the question is: what should be the name of this article: "Asana", "Yogasana" or "Yoga asana" ?
Please vote by just marking a asterisk plus four swung dashes: * ~~~~
"Asana"
- Davin7 09:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Vritti 16:15, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- VanTucky (talk) 18:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC) Asana is most common colloquial and literary usage for English readers.
- B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 00:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- Jo55R 08:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC). Often I read english articles about yoga and they are always on a very hight level. All the others Wk articles use the name "asana", and also in the litterature on yoga. "yogasana" same to be a "personnal" and not an "Universal" choice. Amicalement. Joseph.R.
- ॐ Priyanath 14:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC) This page should never have been moved here without any discussion. It should be moved back to asana
, and then discussed.- --Redtigerxyz 12:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC) Second thoughts
- The article should not have been renamed without any prior discussion. The renaming should be undone immediately, as it was done without any consensus. Personally I would favor using the correct IAST for this term, which is āsana . For Devanagari see: Macdonell, A. A., A Practical Sanskrit Dictionary , p. 43. This issue of using IAST in article titles comes up now and then, and this may be an opportunity to discuss the merits of that approach once more. See my comments below for citations that show that yogāsana is the name of a specific yoga posture, not the correct name for the postures in general. Buddhipriya 08:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- Opt to stay with source term. M 00:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- per VanTucky . --Fire Star 火星 05:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- asana, for common usage - clarify it's yoga in article Aphilo 14:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
"Yogasana"
- Lara_bran 09:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC) I have substantiated my move in above sections.
--Redtigerxyz 13:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC) Please see the explanation below.- Gnanapiti 16:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC) Asana refers to many things. Simhasana (simha+Asana) as in royal throne for example is totally different than what is meant here. Yogasana specifically refers to Yoga postures and the correct title in this context. Gnanapiti 16:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
"Yoga asana"
- I am voting for this. The proper name is yoga asana, I believe. Cheers, Laleena 00:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Closure over two weeks 09:03, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for voting. Davin7 09:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Further talk
Just expanding on my reasoning above, asana is quite obviously the most common colloquial and published usage in the English language, and since Yogasana (even if it's the more correct Hindustani or Sanskrit usage) is a neologism in English, it is best left as a secondary definition in the intro as a term still evolving in usage. A good analogy is the difference between Tai chi chuan and Taijiquan. Most Chinese speaking and Western practitioners from traditionalist backgrounds prefer the romanization not used in the title. But since the current version is more common in colloquial and news usage, the article uses tai chi. VanTucky (talk) 18:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Scholars comment on asana versus yogasana
I spoke with both Pandit Rajmani Tuganatem, PhD, and Pandit Rolf Sovick, PsyD at the Himalayan Institute. Both are Sanskrit scholars (hence, the honorific Pandit) and Shankya lineage holders, as I am myself, through H.H. Sri Swami Rama.
They confirmed independently of one another that 'asana' is correct. While asana does refer to posture, both its common and scholarly use connotes an association with Yoga, specifically. --Empacher 10:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Plural form of asana
There has been an edit by User:Empacher that suggests that 'asana' is singular as well as plural. Again an edit of which I think that it would have been wiser to start a dialogue first, which is funded with checkable references, like books and internet (not telephone calls). My opinion is that the usual plural form of 'asana' is 'asanas', in English of course. Davin7 11:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Grammar
- The only dictionary c.q. encyclopedia entry that provides the plural form of asana I could find, was Encarta:
- In the article "Asana or did you say Aasana?", Paul JJ Alix enters interestingly into the grammar of asana, aasanam, aasanaani, aasanaih, and so forth. Here he compares Sanskrit, Hindi and English. One citation is: "The word 'aasanas' is not found in Sanskrit at all. We always ad an 's' to Sanskrit words because - well the truth is that - once we start using it, it is no longer Sanskrit, it becomes an English word. That is unless you are proficient in using all the forms above with their verbs, usage etc. So as we use them more and more they will get introduced into our language because face it we are not going to learn to speak Sanskrit anyway." Davin7 08:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Another approach can be made, by entering into the etymology of the word asana, when accepting 'asana' being English and 'āsanam' being Sanskrit, and how irregular plurals from Latin and Greek are being formed in Engli
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